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Old February 8th, 2008, 11:24 AM   #1
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When i was in China this last October I got a bunch of great footage of our factories. I recently went to a 1st grade classroom to talk with them about fireworks safety. Im made this video for them to watch even though it has nothing to do with safety but its pretty cool. I always get asked the question, how are fireworks made, where do they come from, how do they get here, and so on. Here is the answer to those questions. Remember the video was made for a 1st grader.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBrlpf7Hi2o

PS sorry for spelling LIU YANG wrong. Reason why ill never be a teacher.

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Old February 8th, 2008, 12:10 PM   #2
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great vid, left a comment on the you tube, and voted it 5 stars (how could i not).

what confuses me is how the hell do they fuse the rows after it's glued?

i can understand the outter rows but you'd think the fusing would need to be done before the tubes are glued into a cube otherwise they'd need to exert a lot of psi into a long awl to poke a hole through all thoes tubes inthe whole row (one row at a time).

if you just one straight hole like tht down an entire row wouldn't you run the risk of QMing the rows by passing fire from one lift charge to the other via that fuse hole?

from what i understand they alternate the fuse position so as to not risk fuse jumping, or accidental chain reaction (a row at a time) passfires...

you'd think it'd be much easier to pop a fuse hole in them before getting them glued and blocked up???
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Old February 8th, 2008, 12:14 PM   #3
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One thing I thought was interesting is the application of the lift charge completely by hand. I would have thought there would be some type of "portion control" funnel or something for more consistency. Guess that's why you get low and high breaks from the same cake....
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Old February 8th, 2008, 12:54 PM   #4
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This comment is really for the safety section, but at 2:42 she cuts fuse with scissors. In a freakin' fireworks factory! there is alot of product and alot of people at risk, yet they still believe it to be a safe enough practice.
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Old February 8th, 2008, 01:08 PM   #5
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great vid, left a comment on the you tube, and voted it 5 stars (how could i not).

what confuses me is how the hell do they fuse the rows after it's glued?

i can understand the outter rows but you'd think the fusing would need to be done before the tubes are glued into a cube otherwise they'd need to exert a lot of psi into a long awl to poke a hole through all thoes tubes inthe whole row (one row at a time).

if you just one straight hole like tht down an entire row wouldn't you run the risk of QMing the rows by passing fire from one lift charge to the other via that fuse hole?

from what i understand they alternate the fuse position so as to not risk fuse jumping, or accidental chain reaction (a row at a time) passfires...

you'd think it'd be much easier to pop a fuse hole in them before getting them glued and blocked up???
Dang son, that kinda talk is turning me on, stop it. You know I'm happly married.
Great video btw, I know it was for first graders but I understood most of it.
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Old February 8th, 2008, 01:34 PM   #6
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Dang son, that kinda talk is turning me on, stop it. You know I'm happly married.
wait...

what?

is it cause i said "hole" so many times?
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Old February 8th, 2008, 01:51 PM   #7
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Yeah the scissor thing is a little skeptical but there has been know powder inserted into those tubes yet. Each separate stage has there own little hut. To where if there was every a problem only one hut would blow. Each factory has 100's of little huts. The scariest part of the factories is where they roll the stars. because thats when your taking raw chemicals and combining them. This is usually where the explosions originate. Typically not many problems in consumer factories. Usually the star section is in the back of the village and hidden with big Mud walls. In order to get into the star section you have to have all cell phones off and run your hand on this grounded metal ball.

Check this out. This is not one of our factories. Its a class B factory somewhere in Europe I believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fYK0A8mRJ4

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Old February 8th, 2008, 06:00 PM   #8
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Cool video, thanks for posting it!

That video you just posted was this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuurwerkramp

It was a warehouse, not a factory. They apparently had a lot more material stored there than was legal, but I don't know the details. Never figured out what started the fire, but it is always hard when there isn't much left to study.
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Old February 8th, 2008, 10:49 PM   #9
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wait...

what?

is it cause i said "hole" so many times?
That's funny, it wasn't the word "hole", I'm so old that word doesn't even phase me anymore. It was the talk of "QMing the rows by passing fire from one lift charge to the other via that fuse hole?"
and "from what i understand they alternate the fuse position so as to not risk fuse jumping, or accidental chain reaction (a row at a time) passfires."
I could read that kinda stuff all day.
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Old February 9th, 2008, 12:00 AM   #10
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Nice vid...and great song. lol....
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Old February 9th, 2008, 04:20 AM   #11
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Pretty cool video, thanks for sharing it with us. Your selection of theme music is right on.
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Old February 9th, 2008, 06:03 AM   #12
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the one thing I don't get is how come the products are not stacked on pallets? would it not be easier to unload a whole truck with a forklift? or is that a safety issue?
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Old February 9th, 2008, 06:13 AM   #13
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the one thing I don't get is how come the products are not stacked on pallets? would it not be easier to unload a whole truck with a forklift? or is that a safety issue?
I'm guessing here, but do you want to pay to have a lot of wood shipped from China, or more fireworks.
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Old February 9th, 2008, 06:28 AM   #14
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I'm guessing here, but do you want to pay to have a lot of wood shipped from China, or more fireworks.

Pallets are only about 4" high. unless it's shipped by weight! Now you got me thinking Rudy.
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Old February 9th, 2008, 09:45 AM   #15
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Pallets take up space. Only four inches verticle but they limit the packing as well. That container was full. Not an inch anywhere. If pallets were used then there would be space here and there. Maybe not a lot but maybe 10% of the space would be wasted.

What I was wondering was why not use a movable system of conveyor belts to help unload the truck. Each end could be moved to where it was needed quickly, sections added as needed......

Otherwise great video. Wouldn't suprise me if this follows the life cycle of most imported products.
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It would be a good video to show to some grade school children, but I would turn off the sound track. The teacher would not approve of it, and there would probably be some curious questions from the students about the girl friend being a firecracker and rolling in the hay.
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It would be a good video to show to some grade school children, but I would turn off the sound track. The teacher would not approve of it, and there would probably be some curious questions from the students about the girl friend being a firecracker and rolling in the hay.
Joe have you listened to the radio lately, That is the most "G" rated song of almost any I have heard in the last 2 years.

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Joe have you listened to the radio lately, That is the most "G" rated song of almost any I have heard in the last 2 years.

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Yes, I am clearly aware of what is currently being playing on the radio, TV, internet and other forms of communication. But the original poster said that this video was for 1st graders. Having had some experience in a 1st grade class room, I was just pointing out the music of the video would be inappropriate in any 1st grade that I have had to preside over.
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I'm guessing here, but do you want to pay to have a lot of wood shipped from China, or more fireworks.
That is basically all there is to it. Air in a container is expensive. This is the main reason most shell assortments are shipped in bulk, then repackaged. Look closely at the package, you can tell there is a lot of air in it. With the added expense in shipping these days, the most expensive items to ship are large cakes of the 2-4" variety. In the same cubic space as a single 25 shot 3" cake, you can ship 3 72/1 cases of 3" shells (216).
As for conveyors to unload, it depends on the folks that do the handling. We use aluminum rollers for unloading the containers. Group the products on pallets in the storage magazine. Then the pallets are use to transfer products to the process magazine, unloaded, then hand trucks are used from picking to loading in the trucks for delivery.
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That's funny, it wasn't the word "hole", I'm so old that word doesn't even phase me anymore. It was the talk of "QMing the rows by passing fire from one lift charge to the other via that fuse hole?"
and "from what i understand they alternate the fuse position so as to not risk fuse jumping, or accidental chain reaction (a row at a time) passfires."
I could read that kinda stuff all day.
ahh

phew...

yeah i was trying to explain it as technicly as possible but sometimes i'm not so good at that.

thank you sir...you made me LOL on a monday.
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