Too much? Boring?

Ropes4u · November 6th, 2009, 01:55 PM

Am I going to bore people to death if I start my show as follows

Wall of fountains - 1 case of yet undecided.

SMB / Smoke / Super Strobes

Roman Candle rack - 1/2 cases

20-40 flying fish mines

.. on to cakes and 300 shells

**JoeRatman** · November 6th, 2009, 02:20 PM

I would say no.

But it really depends on how it is presented.

Ropes4u · November 6th, 2009, 02:34 PM

My shooting area is a few hundred acres. I will have 3 or 4 elevated 4*8 boards spread 50-75 feet apart e-fired. I would shoot these as follows.

1) Fountains double quick matched from the middle and both ends one long row on 1*4s

2) From each platform - SMBs (front), Smoke, Super Strobes in the back.

3) Roman Candles in one or two fan racks

4) Fish Mines - fired from the ends, starting out slow and speeding up to quick match for the last 10-20.

I was also thinking about 2 angled racks of color pearls - I like them and they are cheap.

**JoeRatman** · November 6th, 2009, 02:45 PM

Well when I did fountain shows, I had groups of fountains about 10-12 feet apart.

At STL 2009, I had five stations 50' apart, which I felt was a good distance for the 200g cakes I used. For the fountains, small mines and other ground items, I had mini-boards between the stations, so I had nine positions about 25' apart. You can see the results in this video.

Comets, foutains, mines, ground items.
http://www.pyrouniverse.com/gallery2...09Ratman_1.mpg

Fountain boards
http://www.pyrouniverse.com/gallery2...09Ratman_2.mpg

Pearl boards
http://www.pyrouniverse.com/gallery2...09Ratman_3.mpg

There was then two more sections with cakes, plus an intro with some proximate items. They are in the gallery as well.

Heathen Dave · November 6th, 2009, 02:59 PM

Sounds really bad, you should just give everything to me

No really I think it sounds like a nice opener if you have good spacing.

lamrith · November 6th, 2009, 04:16 PM

I started using fountains a few years back. It can really add to the start of a show. Many songs start of quiet and build up. fountains are a great way to allow for that and build some suspense....
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then BOOOM! you scare the pee out of them!

We usually have an efired mine & cake for that kickoff.

A good fountain like the silvery cones make such a tall shower that your shooters can hide behind it and the crowd does not know exactly when things are being it :-p

I started doing it after a show were we had a 1min lead in and my shooting partner and I had lit flares out on the field that entire time.. people said it really built suspense knowing mayhem was imminent.

November 6th, 2009, 01:55 PM	#1
Ropes4u Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Paris, Texas Posts: 60	Too much? Boring? Am I going to bore people to death if I start my show as follows Wall of fountains - 1 case of yet undecided. SMB / Smoke / Super Strobes Roman Candle rack - 1/2 cases 20-40 flying fish mines .. on to cakes and 300 shells

November 6th, 2009, 02:20 PM	#2
JoeRatman Administrator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 6,592	Re: To much I would say no. But it really depends on how it is presented. __________________ PGII Certified Licensed MN Outdoor Fireworks Operator Licensed MN Indoor/Proximate Fireworks Operator

November 6th, 2009, 02:34 PM	#3
Ropes4u Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Paris, Texas Posts: 60	Re: To much My shooting area is a few hundred acres. I will have 3 or 4 elevated 48 boards spread 50-75 feet apart e-fired. I would shoot these as follows. 1) Fountains double quick matched from the middle and both ends one long row on 14s 2) From each platform - SMBs (front), Smoke, Super Strobes in the back. 3) Roman Candles in one or two fan racks 4) Fish Mines - fired from the ends, starting out slow and speeding up to quick match for the last 10-20. I was also thinking about 2 angled racks of color pearls - I like them and they are cheap.

November 6th, 2009, 02:45 PM	#4
JoeRatman Administrator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 6,592	Re: Too much? Boring? Well when I did fountain shows, I had groups of fountains about 10-12 feet apart. At STL 2009, I had five stations 50' apart, which I felt was a good distance for the 200g cakes I used. For the fountains, small mines and other ground items, I had mini-boards between the stations, so I had nine positions about 25' apart. You can see the results in this video. Comets, foutains, mines, ground items. http://www.pyrouniverse.com/gallery2...09Ratman_1.mpg Fountain boards http://www.pyrouniverse.com/gallery2...09Ratman_2.mpg Pearl boards http://www.pyrouniverse.com/gallery2...09Ratman_3.mpg There was then two more sections with cakes, plus an intro with some proximate items. They are in the gallery as well. __________________ PGII Certified Licensed MN Outdoor Fireworks Operator Licensed MN Indoor/Proximate Fireworks Operator Last edited by JoeRatman; November 6th, 2009 at 02:58 PM.

November 6th, 2009, 02:59 PM	#5
Heathen Dave Supporting Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: PA Posts: 142	Re: Too much? Boring? Sounds really bad, you should just give everything to me No really I think it sounds like a nice opener if you have good spacing. __________________ Fight my brute http://heathen-dave.mybrute.com/ 2008 4th of July fireworks http://www.vimeo.com/4654539 2009 4th of July fireworkshttp://www.vimeo.com/5569958

November 6th, 2009, 04:16 PM	#6
lamrith Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: WA Posts: 706	Re: Too much? Boring? I started using fountains a few years back. It can really add to the start of a show. Many songs start of quiet and build up. fountains are a great way to allow for that and build some suspense.... . . . then BOOOM! you scare the pee out of them! We usually have an efired mine & cake for that kickoff. A good fountain like the silvery cones make such a tall shower that your shooters can hide behind it and the crowd does not know exactly when things are being it :-p I started doing it after a show were we had a 1min lead in and my shooting partner and I had lit flares out on the field that entire time.. people said it really built suspense knowing mayhem was imminent. __________________ _______________________ PYROHOUSE WA FIREWORKS