Storage for 1.4g - Page 3

r1dermon · November 3rd, 2009, 07:26 PM

well, if you shoot him in the leg, like the original poster said, then he would probably be in sound state of mind...

scarp9603 · November 3rd, 2009, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuntborg

I do think you would loose the court battle if you had illegal (state illegal or even city ordinance illegal) items in your house.

Consumer fireworks in your house justifies throwing out a claim on your homeowners???

What about:
an unlicensed pet
violations of the fire code
violations of the building code
overdue taxes
overdue library book

Would violating a law nullify claims on your automobile insurance?
For example: improper parking, following too close.

**stuntborg** · November 3rd, 2009, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarp9603

Consumer fireworks in your house justifies throwing out a claim on your homeowners???

What about:
an unlicensed pet
violations of the fire code
violations of the building code
overdue taxes
overdue library book

Would violating a law nullify claims on your automobile insurance?
For example: improper parking, following too close.

This is settled very easily. Read your home owners policy. If it doesn't explicitly state that illegal activities are not covered then you should be fine....

**stuntborg** · November 3rd, 2009, 08:16 PM

Quick yahoo search

Many homeowners assume they are covered for any type of accident that occurs around their home; however, whether or not you are covered for a fireworks accident depends on the circumstances. Insurance companies will probably not consider paying a claim if:

You have a state, county or municipal law/ordinance outlawing fireworks or if the law only allows professionals to operate them.
Your area does not allow the types of rockets used in the incident. Whether or not you purchased the fireworks legally elsewhere, the insurance company will not pay.
Your local law/ordinance requires a permit and you do not have one.
Insurance companies will not pay for damage under two general conditions: (1) you have violated the law or (2) circumstances could not be deemed accidental. A scenario in which some firecrackers in your home were set off when they were placed too near the barbecue would be accidental. If your teenager set a firecracker off on purpose, the certainty of coverage is far less clear and less likely

from
http://www.chooseindependent.com/documents/July4th.htm

Plenty of links to follow. All say the same thing...

And to Crazys question.....

Storing illegal fireworks would constitude an illegal act. Discussing illegal acts will get you banned.

You might also want to check out this thread.

http://www.pyrouniverse.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=21139

strobes · November 3rd, 2009, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PyroMania

Is it illegal to HAVE them in IL, or just illegal to SHOOT them?

Both and the kid isnt even legal to buy them so its 3 laws hes breaking

crazyskier537 · November 3rd, 2009, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strobes

Both and the kid isnt even legal to buy them so its 3 laws hes breaking

I don't have ANYTHING except fuse in the state of IL. I myself am not buying ANYTHING. I do not shoot ANYTHING in IL.

countryboy7978 · November 4th, 2009, 05:53 PM

Don't lie....don't lie!!!! You know you've shot stuff in IL before.

Who hasn't? With a local permit of course

countryboy7978 · November 4th, 2009, 05:54 PM

BTW...Just bustin your chops CrazySkyer...Good luck with the polititions.

RudyG · November 4th, 2009, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by countryboy7978

BTW...Just bustin your chops CrazySkyer...Good luck with the polititions.

Did you try those rockets yet, or are you still trying to get a permit to shoot them.

scarp9603 · November 4th, 2009, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuntborg

Insurance companies will not pay for damage under two general conditions: (1) you have violated the law or (2) circumstances could not be deemed accidental.

http://www.pyrouniverse.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=21139

So I have a claim on my homeowners policy for damage to my house,
and it turns out that my house had a violation of the city code,
so I "have violated the law" (city ordinance) ---
that would invalidate the claim???

For example, wiring not up to code -- that would invalidate a claim for fire damage???

For example, roof not up to code -- that would invalidate a claim for hail/storm damage???

nater219 · November 4th, 2009, 06:41 PM

Short Answer - It could. They might not deny it, but from personal experiences involving a torn rotator cuff from an accident, insurance companies will use any excuse possible to not pay a claim.

How do you think they make money? It's kind of like Vegas, those pretty buildings aren't paid for by winners.

billebouy · November 4th, 2009, 06:52 PM

"Violating the law" in this context would mean damage resulting from or exacerbated by engaging in an illegal activity, defined by state law, enforced by police, court enforced penalties, including imprisonment.
If you blow up your garage cooking meth, don't think the insurance companies are going to pay.

That being said, here in FL the insurance companies now send out inspectors pretty much yearly, if they don't like the looks of your roof, you fix it or they drop you. Loose stuff laying around in the yard, get rid of it. Old shed? Demolish it. I've had/seen it happen.

If you have an electrical fire and they find out the wiring was not up to code (at the time your house was built), you bet they would try to deny the claim. And if your roof blew off and they found out your cousin Fred did it ignoring current building practices, ditto.

After hurricane Hugo in'92 and then Katrina, insurance companies have gotten VERY GOOD ad denying claims. When the "Good Hands" people show up, well, keep an eye on those hands...

**stuntborg** · November 4th, 2009, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarp9603

So I have a claim on my homeowners policy for damage to my house,
and it turns out that my house had a violation of the city code,
so I "have violated the law" (city ordinance) ---
that would invalidate the claim???

For example, wiring not up to code -- that would invalidate a claim for fire damage???

For example, roof not up to code -- that would invalidate a claim for hail/storm damage???

I'm not going to bother arguing this issue with you. I suggest you do as I did and do a google search. I'm not an insurance salesman. I don't know the rules. I do know what my insurance policy said and I know what I read while researching the issue on the internet. EVERY site basically said the same thing.

countryboy7978 · November 4th, 2009, 08:20 PM

Rudy,

Just shot 2 of them. Not too bad of a whistle, actually pretty loud. Report is average though.

Had to wait for the FM to sign my permit

strobes · November 4th, 2009, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by countryboy7978

Rudy,

Just shot 2 of them. Not too bad of a whistle, actually pretty loud. Report is average though.

Had to wait for the FM to sign my permit

Good man!!

mgh1980 · November 4th, 2009, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by countryboy7978

Rudy,

Just shot 2 of them. Not too bad of a whistle, actually pretty loud. Report is average though.

Had to wait for the FM to sign my permit

Sorry, I kept the FM too long looking at my mag. He was inspecting my rubbermade magazine that I use to store my artillery shells and fuse, I guess the hinge is a bit outdated

, so I was forced to go with the snapping kind, maybe then hopefully, he'll sign my permit

I'm also making this mag mobile to get to my shoot site as quick as possible, and if I have to transport my stash to a different location (for instance, my freind's house), it should work, right?, what do you guys think? If it looks ok, I could PM you the plans.

pyrokid · November 5th, 2009, 04:03 PM

Nice, man.

mgh1980 · November 5th, 2009, 05:42 PM

Yea, you don't even need a drivers license to transport your stash, very useful, and waterproof for those rainy days

nater219 · November 5th, 2009, 05:45 PM

Just add some outriggers and slats to the BOB. And fenders on the recumbent, don't want the mag to get a mud stripe.

Is that a battery or a regular trunk bag?

mgh1980 · November 5th, 2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nater219

Just add some outriggers and slats to the BOB. And fenders on the recumbent, don't want the mag to get a mud stripe.

Is that a battery or a regular trunk bag?

thanks for your suggestions

I think it needs another bunjee cord. It's a regular trunk bag that could fit a battery for e fire if need be, or a juice box

for those long hauls.

nater219 · November 5th, 2009, 07:44 PM

Ah - I thought it might be a battery for an electric conversion. After the next group buy, you might need one of these to pedal home.

pyrokid · November 5th, 2009, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgh1980

thanks for your suggestions

I think it needs another bunjee cord.

Hilarious.

November 3rd, 2009, 07:26 PM	#61
r1dermon Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: northeast Posts: 1,231	Re: Storage for 1.4g well, if you shoot him in the leg, like the original poster said, then he would probably be in sound state of mind...

November 3rd, 2009, 08:16 PM	#64
stuntborg Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,484	Re: Storage for 1.4g Quick yahoo search Many homeowners assume they are covered for any type of accident that occurs around their home; however, whether or not you are covered for a fireworks accident depends on the circumstances. Insurance companies will probably not consider paying a claim if: You have a state, county or municipal law/ordinance outlawing fireworks or if the law only allows professionals to operate them. Your area does not allow the types of rockets used in the incident. Whether or not you purchased the fireworks legally elsewhere, the insurance company will not pay. Your local law/ordinance requires a permit and you do not have one. Insurance companies will not pay for damage under two general conditions: (1) you have violated the law or (2) circumstances could not be deemed accidental. A scenario in which some firecrackers in your home were set off when they were placed too near the barbecue would be accidental. If your teenager set a firecracker off on purpose, the certainty of coverage is far less clear and less likely from http://www.chooseindependent.com/documents/July4th.htm Plenty of links to follow. All say the same thing... And to Crazys question..... Storing illegal fireworks would constitude an illegal act. Discussing illegal acts will get you banned. You might also want to check out this thread. http://www.pyrouniverse.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=21139 __________________ I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. MEMBER PGI Charter Member PTPG Fargo, ND

November 4th, 2009, 05:53 PM	#67
countryboy7978 Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NW Indy Posts: 1,245	Re: Storage for 1.4g Don't lie....don't lie!!!! You know you've shot stuff in IL before. Who hasn't? With a local permit of course __________________ "Firecrackers...the silent killer" - Troy McClure Member PGI

November 4th, 2009, 05:54 PM	#68
countryboy7978 Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NW Indy Posts: 1,245	Re: Storage for 1.4g BTW...Just bustin your chops CrazySkyer...Good luck with the polititions. __________________ "Firecrackers...the silent killer" - Troy McClure Member PGI

November 4th, 2009, 06:41 PM	#71
nater219 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 247	Re: Storage for 1.4g Short Answer - It could. They might not deny it, but from personal experiences involving a torn rotator cuff from an accident, insurance companies will use any excuse possible to not pay a claim. How do you think they make money? It's kind of like Vegas, those pretty buildings aren't paid for by winners.

November 4th, 2009, 06:52 PM	#72
billebouy Supporting Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: FL Posts: 519	Re: Storage for 1.4g "Violating the law" in this context would mean damage resulting from or exacerbated by engaging in an illegal activity, defined by state law, enforced by police, court enforced penalties, including imprisonment. If you blow up your garage cooking meth, don't think the insurance companies are going to pay. That being said, here in FL the insurance companies now send out inspectors pretty much yearly, if they don't like the looks of your roof, you fix it or they drop you. Loose stuff laying around in the yard, get rid of it. Old shed? Demolish it. I've had/seen it happen. If you have an electrical fire and they find out the wiring was not up to code (at the time your house was built), you bet they would try to deny the claim. And if your roof blew off and they found out your cousin Fred did it ignoring current building practices, ditto. After hurricane Hugo in'92 and then Katrina, insurance companies have gotten VERY GOOD ad denying claims. When the "Good Hands" people show up, well, keep an eye on those hands...

November 4th, 2009, 08:20 PM	#74
countryboy7978 Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NW Indy Posts: 1,245	Re: Storage for 1.4g Rudy, Just shot 2 of them. Not too bad of a whistle, actually pretty loud. Report is average though. Had to wait for the FM to sign my permit __________________ "Firecrackers...the silent killer" - Troy McClure Member PGI

November 5th, 2009, 04:03 PM	#77
pyrokid Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 344	Re: Storage for 1.4g Nice, man.

November 5th, 2009, 05:42 PM	#78
mgh1980 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: in a shack down by the river Posts: 640	Re: Storage for 1.4g Yea, you don't even need a drivers license to transport your stash, very useful, and waterproof for those rainy days __________________ There are no stupid questions, just stupid people

November 5th, 2009, 05:45 PM	#79
nater219 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 247	Re: Storage for 1.4g Just add some outriggers and slats to the BOB. And fenders on the recumbent, don't want the mag to get a mud stripe. Is that a battery or a regular trunk bag?

November 5th, 2009, 07:44 PM	#81
nater219 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 247	Re: Storage for 1.4g Ah - I thought it might be a battery for an electric conversion. After the next group buy, you might need one of these to pedal home.