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    2009 New Brothers

    Just got a 4 page insert from Brothers with 17 new cakes
    it was called
    2009 New Pyro-Save Collection
    Does this mean Cheaper product
    8 @ 12/1 case
    4 @ 8/1
    2 @ 6/1
    1 @ 24/1
    3 @ 4/1
    Mostly 200 and 350 gr cakes
    Anybody have feedback on this

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    Re: 2009 New Brothers

    jnj - good question - got that too.
    Got no prices yet - so we will see...
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    Joyce - any names of these new products ?

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    Re: 2009 New Brothers

    Names
    AF One, 24/1
    Cat 5,Lazer Twist,Jaws,Round Up,Turbine,Ghost Patrol,Pyrocastic,12/1
    Intrigue Palace,Musele Maze,6/1
    Diamond Mine,Firedrake,DidoDodo,Stairway To Heaven, 8/1
    Solar Style,Feud,Straight Up Stuff, 4/1
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    Re: 2009 New Brothers

    Thanks for the info.

    This may be a dumb question, but how do I get my hands on said catalog?

    In addition, how do people get demo videos of products from the companies? Do you have to be a retailer or wholesaler?

    Sorry for the mild thread hijack.

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    Re: 2009 New Brothers

    Quote Originally Posted by AnonyMouse View Post
    Thanks for the info.

    This may be a dumb question, but how do I get my hands on said catalog?

    In addition, how do people get demo videos of products from the companies? Do you have to be a retailer or wholesaler?

    Sorry for the mild thread hijack.
    I emailed Brothers and requested a cataloge. It was a nice hardcover book with a DVD of all the new products, and some older products as well. Free of charge as well...and I'm a nobody as far as being involved in the industry at all. Was just curious about what they had coming out.

    However I don't believe I got the insert that this thread is about.

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    I could go for some new demo videos to watch. Way to go Brothers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lil_mikey69 View Post
    I emailed Brothers and requested a cataloge. It was a nice hardcover book with a DVD of all the new products, and some older products as well. Free of charge as well...and I'm a nobody as far as being involved in the industry at all. Was just curious about what they had coming out.

    However I don't believe I got the insert that this thread is about.
    Thanks for the reply. Went to go email them from their site and saw their downloads section. It's got the current 2009 catalog as well as older versions and some nive videos on there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lil_mikey69 View Post
    I emailed Brothers and requested a cataloge. It was a nice hardcover book with a DVD of all the new products, and some older products as well. Free of charge as well...and I'm a nobody as far as being involved in the industry at all. Was just curious about what they had coming out.

    However I don't believe I got the insert that this thread is about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jknepp1954 View Post
    jnj - good question - got that too.
    Got no prices yet - so we will see...
    Joyce
    The prices look like the line will be like the name says, Pyro-Save. I can't quite give out actual prices yet, but these look to be very affordable. Of course, we'll have to see the performance on these before making any decisions on value.
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    I was perusing the Brother's website and it's pretty cool. A few of the links for the video's appear to be dead. I was trying to look at the container load assortment video and shows page not found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyroyoda View Post
    I was perusing the Brother's website and it's pretty cool. A few of the links for the video's appear to be dead. I was trying to look at the container load assortment video and shows page not found.
    http://www.myvictoryfireworks.com/fi...ainerload.html

    It's a nice assortment, I had it this year. Some nice cakes in it as well as a couple other small items that were pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lil_mikey69 View Post
    http://www.myvictoryfireworks.com/fi...ainerload.html

    It's a nice assortment, I had it this year. Some nice cakes in it as well as a couple other small items that were pretty good.
    Very cool. It looks pretty good. Thanks!

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    Does Kneppy's carry the Brothers assortments?

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    Received prices on these items today...will be carrying some for 09 and I think the 6/1s, 8/1s and 12/1s will be the wave of the future for pyro value...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTPYRO180 View Post
    Received prices on these items today...will be carrying some for 09 and I think the 6/1s, 8/1s and 12/1s will be the wave of the future for pyro value...
    What's up Mike!

    When do you think you will be getting the new Bros. stuff in, so I can plan my trip out to see you?

    MVP is a must have item if you can get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTPYRO180 View Post
    Received prices on these items today...will be carrying some for 09 and I think the 6/1s, 8/1s and 12/1s will be the wave of the future for pyro value...
    i hope the lower prices of these items isnt reflective of their performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyroyoda View Post
    Does Kneppy's carry the Brothers assortments?
    No we don't. TOO costly IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jknepp1954 View Post
    No we don't. TOO costly IMO.
    OK, Thanks. I realize it's a little off topic, but is there an assortment that you carry that's similar that you feel provides a good value? Is that Laying Down the Law assortment pretty decent?

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    yeah you are right for LDTL....
    but what I am saying - i never liked Brothers Assort. - the Container Load seems to be the only nice looking assort. IMO - but too much $$ and takes up too much space!
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    Re: 2009 New Brothers

    More importantly than all other things, the quality of these cakes will be determined when we can see some video.
    I am excited to see more 200g stuff coming out.
    Can't wait for the videos.
    When someone gets them, please post.

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    Re: 2009 New Brothers

    Quote Originally Posted by Barracuda View Post
    More importantly than all other things, the quality of these cakes will be determined when we can see some video.

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    More pursuasive will be when someone from PyroU shoots them and posts the vids. Brothers demo vids are pretty accurate but I prefer to see something from one of us.

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    Re: 2009 New Brothers

    Quote Originally Posted by missinglink View Post
    More pursuasive will be when someone from PyroU shoots them and posts the vids. Brothers demo vids are pretty accurate but I prefer to see something from one of us.
    Touché

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    Re: 2009 New Brothers

    Some of the vids on Brothers site for these new items are very impressive. I especially like the combination in the first two cakes Mad Skilz and Gotham. All of the links are good but a few and are worth watching if only to see cake timing and the type of effects each cake is throwing into the sky. I agree with missinglink though and would like to see some PyroU vids as well.


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    Re: 2009 New Brothers

    In regards to the 200g vs. 350g cakes, is there typically a big price difference and is it worth it? I've only seen 200 and 500g cakes where I shop unless I haven't been looking...

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    I think you've seen some 350 gram cakes and maybe not realized it. Matrix Pyro and Digital Experience, for example, which we shot at Tim's are 350

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    Re: 2009 New Brothers

    THERE ARE NO 350 GRAM CAKES. There are 2 legal classifications: up to 200 gram, called "200 gram", and over 200 gram up to 500 gram, called "500 gram". 500 gram cakes are legally required to be constructed with half-inch spacers between the tubes. If you are asserting that a cake not labelled and constructed as a 500 gram cake is 350 gram, you are asserting that it is an illegal overload, and WE DON'T DO THAT HERE.
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    Re: 2009 New Brothers

    A cake could still be constructed with half-inch spacers between the tubes to meet the 500-Gram requirements and only have 350-Grams of comp. Example Phantoms "Mineshell Mayhem" packed 8/1. I would assume that any cake that is over 200-Gram and less then 500-Grams would not be considered overloaded and still be ok as long as it met the 500-Gram construction requirements.
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    Ok i'm officially confused now ! So there is no such thing as a 350 Gram cake by itself ? It's either up to 200 or up to 500 ? No in between ?

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    I almost forgot, what about all those 750 shot + Saturn batteries? I guess they are all overloaded.
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