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    Default Shooting a flare gun in a S&S city?

    I live in Orange County, California which is a S&S ONLY county. Is it legal to fire a flare gun into the air during the 4th of July for your own amusement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtknight View Post
    I live in Orange County, California which is a S&S ONLY county. Is it legal to fire a flare gun into the air during the 4th of July for your own amusement?
    I wouldnt see why not, its not considered a Pyrotechnic device is it?
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    I would check the laws. It could be considered many things.
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    Default Re: Shooting a flare gun in a S&S city?

    I've always wondered about this...Although it may technically be legal, you should use your best judgement when choosing to fire it or not. We live in a very dry state (with the exception of the far north) so it's probably not the best idea to just go popping off flares. Same situation with Sky Lanterns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firecrackersam View Post
    I've always wondered about this...Although it may technically be legal, you should use your best judgement when choosing to fire it or not. We live in a very dry state (with the exception of the far north) so it's probably not the best idea to just go popping off flares. Same situation with Sky Lanterns.
    Good point. Where I live, it's actually not too dry suprizingly. But that might also be because I live 3 miles from the beach haha.
    It would be interesting to check the local laws on flare guns.
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    Default Re: Shooting a flare gun in a S&S city?

    A flare is a distress signal.
    You could get in a lot of trouble if its taken as an emergency.
    Being the 4th they might just ignore it.
    I believe white flares are "test" flares that would not be an emergency signal.

    The police can also decide they are a weapon if they wanted to......
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    Default Re: Shooting a flare gun in a S&S city?

    Here is the list of approved fireworks (from the State Fire Marshal's office). If you read the first few pages, it would appear that only items on this list are considered safe and sane and are the only legal fireworks in CA. There is no flare guns in the list.
    http://osfm.fire.ca.gov/strucfireeng...nebook2011.pdf

    This document has been developed by the CAL FIRE – Office of the State Fire Marshal (OSFM), Fire Engineering Division staff to assist the California Fire Service in determining the fireworks items approved and classified by the Office of the California State Fire Marshal as "Safe and Sane".

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    What if you find an item that is not on a company's list?
    Step No.1: Check each of the other company listings to find if it is a firework item that is distributed by another company which this particular company may have contracted to distribute.

    Step No. 2: If the item does not appear on any company's list, call the contact person for the fireworks company who is the supplier for that particular stand (Please refer to enclosed list for contact names and phone numbers).
    Most fireworks companies maintain a 24-hour toll free number.

    Step No. 3: If you are unable to resolve your questions and/or are still concerned whether the item(s) have been classified by the Office of the State Fire Marshal as Safe and Sane, contact the OSFM Fire Engineering Division Fireworks Program staff at (916) 445-8373 for assistance. If it is
    determined the item has not been classified by the OSFM as Safe and Sane, it must be confiscated and removed from the stand.
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    I saw a guy get in deep trouble for shooting a red flare before; I think it was last New Year’s Eve. Other people were shooting Artillery shells but as soon as this guy shoots the red flare the police helicopters jumped all over him and cops came from every direction. They really made a big deal out of it. The ghetto birds certainly did not just blow it off like an artillery shell.
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    Default Re: Shooting a flare gun in a S&S city?

    Quote Originally Posted by leeca View Post
    I saw a guy get in deep trouble for shooting a red flare before; I think it was last New Year’s Eve. Other people were shooting Artillery shells but as soon as this guy shoots the red flare the police helicopters jumped all over him and cops came from every direction. They really made a big deal out of it. The ghetto birds certainly did not just blow it off like an artillery shell.
    Maybe a red flare is a distress signal and when the police saw it they treated it like a 911 call?
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    California firearms laws treat a flare gun as a concealable weapon and a loaded weapon unless it is being kept on a boat, aircraft, or carried on a (licensed) hunting trip:
    http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/Cfl2007.pdf
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    It is a violation of federal law to use a distress signal in any instance other than a bonafide maritime emergency.
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    Default Re: Shooting a flare gun in a S&S city?

    Did some checking and confirmed white flares are testing/ illumination and not distress signals.
    So you can fire white flares from a boat and be legal.
    Still risking people not knowing the red/white thing and getting a visit from the police.
    Also there are self-contained single shot flares that aren't a "gun" I don't know how the law would treat them.
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    Default Re: Shooting a flare gun in a S&S city?

    Too much up a risk. just take a really cool fountain and pop it up on a 24 foot pole and e fire it.

    its a safe and sane aerial device!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncanbullet View Post
    Too much up a risk. just take a really cool fountain and pop it up on a 24 foot pole and e fire it.

    its a safe and sane aerial device!
    Is that being used in a manner consistent with its labeling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrokid View Post
    Is that being used in a manner consistent with its labeling?
    They never said anything about no puttin it on a pole
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    Default Re: Shooting a flare gun in a S&S city?

    Quote Originally Posted by Duncanbullet View Post
    They never said anything about no puttin it on a pole
    Fountains on poles look much better than fountains on tha ground, even better when you got one straight up and one to each side

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    I used to shoot the red parachute flares called SkyBlazer just for fun. I have also shot the ones from the plastic gun that look like minishot shells. On several occations I had the flare reach the ground still burning. After the incident in Wisconsin a few years ago where some guys shot a Star-Cluster military flare and it burned down a meat packing plant I have not shot any flares over land again. Most of these are meant to be shot over water so that they fall into the water and go out. Be careful when shooting these. I'd be less worried about getting busted for an illegal distress signal than I would be starting a fire.
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