Has anyone seen these guys in action? Particularly the 1.75" ball shell, 1.75" ball salute, 2.5" salute and 2.5" fancy shells?
thanks...
darink300zx
February 1st, 2006, 12:19 PM
Hey Anthony, ctpyro has some videos in his gallery on pyroreview of a couple of those items I think. I could be wrong but I think they were from Kellner's demo last year.
I spoke with Bob just the other day on those 1 3/4" shells. He exact words were all the color 1 3/4" shells in his 1.3g section are just bulk orders of regular consumer shells:(
MNPyro
February 1st, 2006, 01:34 PM
I spoke with Bob just the other day on those 1 3/4" shells. He exact words were all the color 1 3/4" shells in his 1.3g section are just bulk orders of regular consumer shells:(
Isn't that somewhat expected? Not to be mean or whatever as it seems people's feelings get hurt a little to easy on here, but with the little knowledge I had of making shells and such, there not a whole lot you can do with the little space inside a 1.75" shell. Not saying there can't be "better" made ones than regular consumer shells, but just my thought. And also, there has been talk over those shells before, and why can't a person order those without a license...
MNPyro
SkiingPyro
February 1st, 2006, 01:36 PM
I spoke with Bob just the other day on those 1 3/4" shells. He exact words were all the color 1 3/4" shells in his 1.3g section are just bulk orders of regular consumer shells:(
I was afraid of this. Although, it's hard to believe that completely. If you look at the triple break shells in the 1.75" category, they have what looks like three full-sized shells stacked on top of each other--two canisters with a ball in the middle. Seems kinda fishy. I don't understand why they are classified as 1.3g if they are just bulk cases. Even if that is reason enough, why do they bother making single 12 shell boxes available for sale at all? Something just doesn't seem right.
Murph'
February 1st, 2006, 01:55 PM
uhhh so many shell per tube, bulk means they dont have tubes.
:)
NYSHOOTER
February 1st, 2006, 02:14 PM
what was talked about last time was something along the line of shells having to be sold with tubes. for them to be in sold in the 1.4g area. but I think other wholesalers sale these in bulk so I not to sure anymore.
MNPyro--- > I'm thinking that once people see these listed in the 1.3g section. they get all excited thinking they're made with loads of flash or something. only to later find out they're normal everyday consumer shells
SkiingPyro
February 1st, 2006, 03:01 PM
uhhh so many shell per tube, bulk means they dont have tubes.
:)
uuuh they should at least have quickmatch leads if they're gonna call it 1.3g. I've bought "bulk" shell packs with no tubes and they're not 1.3g. Of course this was about two years ago at Spectacular Fireworks in PA. Wonder if they still do that and 'how they get away with it.'
Murph'
February 1st, 2006, 03:27 PM
uuuh they should at least have quickmatch leads if they're gonna call it 1.3g. I've bought "bulk" shell packs with no tubes and they're not 1.3g. Of course this was about two years ago at Spectacular Fireworks in PA. Wonder if they still do that and 'how they get away with it.'
Yeah go ahead tell em' what you think and why. perhaps they will change that for you.
Murph'
skibladerj
February 1st, 2006, 03:39 PM
to my knowlege bulk shells must be sold with a ratio of shells to tubes. . . . I would assume for liability reassons. :( Because as we all know sometimes people dont know that the shells need a tube to work:rolleyes:
AnthonyNJpyro
February 1st, 2006, 03:46 PM
Ok guys back on the subject hand.... has anyone seen the 1.75" shells from kellners on the 1.3g side? Or have a video?
Daren thanks for the link but I couldnt find any of the shlells, just cakes...
Murph'
February 1st, 2006, 04:21 PM
Ok guys back on the subject hand.... has anyone seen the 1.75" shells from kellners on the 1.3g side? Or have a video?
Daren thanks for the link but I couldnt find any of the shlells, just cakes...
Nothing to write home about with the colors, the salutes are real decent for the price and the cans are from the wild winds collection. he does split the cases on the 1.3 side but should be a premium price with the new price structure this year
NYSHOOTER
February 1st, 2006, 04:23 PM
Ok guys back on the subject hand.... has anyone seen the 1.75" shells from kellners on the 1.3g side? Or have a video?
Daren thanks for the link but I couldnt find any of the shlells, just cakes...
here are kellners 2 1/2" tiger tail shells
http://www.pyroreview.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/1085/sort/1/cat/500/page/3
I don't think anyone has vids of the shells your asking about