ok so i've got 100 15 inch HDPE tubes and i'm wantign to save on the doans pills.
here's the situation.
i've got 75 of them in a big box 5x15, and 5 5 shot boxes that i can angle around. using re-bar and eye hooks.
the 5 5 shots are nice, but that 75 shot box is insanely heavy. i built it for use in finales but just looking at it is a finale for my back.
so i got to thinkin... (dangerous i know)
what will be the best way to use up thoes 100 tubes without having to order more and not have some odd ones left over.
the best thing i have figured out so far is 3 30 shot 6x5 fans and keep 10 of them in 2 5 shot boxes that i already have made.
i like the idea of having things in multiples of 6 (to match shell kit cases which usually come in multiples of 6) but doing this leaves me with thoes 10 extra.
having 4 24 shot boxes would then leave me with 4 extra...and i'm not gonna build a 4 shot rack.
so anyone have any pearls of wisdom for me?
BigDave
March 6th, 2007, 04:40 PM
I sympathise with your sorrow at the weight of that 75 shot rack so much I'm willing to take it off your hands for free (with tubes of course)
;>
Dan
March 6th, 2007, 04:41 PM
Well I'd actually build 20 5 shot racks that you could screw together in any configuration you'd want. ver lightweight to haul around and easy to slap together wth others to make as many shots as you wanted, and cold fan the by angling as well
Dan
rolln
March 6th, 2007, 04:44 PM
st1, i'm not sure this is wisdom, but if that was my situation, I would be trying to do the 24 shot racks, and asking you guys if I could cut the 10 15" tubes in half, to make a 20 mine rack!!!, which from what I have found is very possable, have found 2 people making mine racks with 6" tubes, would just have to plug 10 of the ones I would cut in half!!!!!................
St1dinoh
March 6th, 2007, 04:45 PM
Well I'd actually build 20 5 shot racks that you could screw together in any configuration you'd want. ver lightweight to haul around and easy to slap together wth others to make as many shots as you wanted, and cold fan the by angling as well
Dan
i like that idea, but then there's that problem of having things in multiples of 6...if only i had ordered 120 instead of 100 :D
i like the multiple/modular idea because sometimes i'll want them all in one spot, other times i'll want to spread the racks out a bit...
so i'll definatley be going with that concept.
that idea of 3 30 shot 6 point fans is sounding better and better.
St1dinoh
March 6th, 2007, 04:46 PM
st1, i'm not sure this is wisdom, but if that was my situation, I would be trying to do the 24 shot racks, and asking you guys if I could cut the 10 15" tubes in half, to make a 20 mine rack!!!, which from what I have found is very possable, have found 2 people making mine racks with 6" tubes, would just have to plug 10 of the ones I would cut in half!!!!!................
NICE
good idea rolln
i might have to look into that idea as well.
now i just need to get me a 2 1/8 hole saw and a drill press :twisted:
rolln
March 6th, 2007, 04:50 PM
hey, never know when u may need that shi! !!!, I got 160 tubes on the way, could come up there and put some fire to a few cases of those cronik cakes!!!!!!!!!!
matttmatttmattt
March 6th, 2007, 04:50 PM
Well I'd actually build 20 5 shot racks that you could screw together in any configuration you'd want. ver lightweight to haul around and easy to slap together wth others to make as many shots as you wanted, and cold fan the by angling as well
Dan
I tried suggesting things like that before and people thought I was on crack... I guess they love lugging around huge ace racks
St1dinoh
March 6th, 2007, 05:17 PM
hey, never know when u may need that shi! !!!, I got 160 tubes on the way, could come up there and put some fire to a few cases of those cronik cakes!!!!!!!!!!
lol...i still can't get over that cake name. any time you feel like "firing up some chronic" just let me know...hehe
I tried suggesting things like that before and people thought I was on crack... I guess they love lugging around huge ace racks
well as far as the big racks go i only built it that way in the first place to conserve on wood and space. now i'm not so concerned. if you have the help it's not a big deal, but when you are alone, moving into your new apartment, and you need to get that rack from the front of the apartment to the back of the closet in the back bedroom...
yeah...screw that...never again
time to build something more reasonable. it took me a good 10 minutes of rocking that thing back and forth to "walk" it into the back room leaving torn up carpet and splinters all over the place.
never again.
Bill Corbett
March 6th, 2007, 05:17 PM
I remember that post matt.
I to will be making racks very soon and need to figure out what I want to do. I figure basic racks, 24 shot and some 6 shot fan racks will do.
jknepp1954
March 6th, 2007, 05:45 PM
St, if you have any tubes left over, you can throw them my way!
Actually, i am gong to watch this post caefully as I am buying 100 tubes also and trying to figure out how is the best to configure them.
joyce
noel
March 6th, 2007, 06:00 PM
Comes down to how you do each show... we usually have 2-3 if not more launch points in the field, never the same configuration, if I had all my tubes in 1 or 2 racks, it really limits how you can do your show.
If I only had 100 tubes, I think I would build 10 shot strait racks so that you can do fans, strait, whatever. Screw plywood to the ends to hold them upright, and then they tear down and store easily.
Deweycoon
March 6th, 2007, 06:06 PM
I'm with noel. Make 10 shot racks and screw them together in the configuration you want if you only have 100 mortars to work with.
Mike
March 6th, 2007, 06:27 PM
That's what we did with 250 mortars. Made 25-10 shot modules to arrange any way we wanted to with end boards and could change it up any time we got ready. I know it is against the "multiples of 6" thing, but we did it anyway. I don't mind having left over shells.
I built a 28 shot (7 rows x 4 deep) fanned mine rack with the leftovers and I think we still have 2 or 3 mortars lying around somewhere. We started with 280 this go-round.
carp
March 7th, 2007, 06:44 AM
My daughter hauls around 10 shot racks when she's shooting. She's almost 11 so I'd say they are easy on the back. Now I just need to convince her that moving the 6" racks are just as easy. Maybe she does need a horse
johnny_boomboom
March 7th, 2007, 07:41 AM
ST1DINOH...
4 words " 2LITER SODA CARRIERS " they are made of HDPE and will hold 24 HDPE SRD-11 tubes perfectly... I use some 1" dowels to tighten them up... but they work freaking great... I have several of them for finale boxes... your could use Milk crates as well... As regards to fan racks... I build almost all my racks in single rows so I can angle them with 2X4's at the bottom and top to hold the angles I want...
pyrology
March 7th, 2007, 08:37 AM
Straight racks of 6's or 10's
then you can arrange as needed in fans or otherwise.
10s means less building ;)
Dirichlet
March 7th, 2007, 09:08 AM
I just got 120 tubes in (100 12" and 20 15")...
I'm gonna be making my first racks soon - very psyched.
What I'm planning:
60-shot finale fan rack (6 rows of 10) - I know it'll be heavy, but I'm young-ish and I can handle carrying around 80-or-so lbs from time to time.
2x 20-shot straight racks
20-shot fan rack (4 rows of 5)
:D :D :D
St1dinoh
March 7th, 2007, 09:36 AM
wow...i'm torn
i'm glad everyone has chimed in here.
i was leaning twords 4 24 shots in a 6 way fan...then having 4 left over kinda as spares.
but now that noel and some others have suggested the 10 shot moduels i've been forced to reconsider everything.
then in comes johnny with the suggestion of the 2 liter soda crates, and that would eliminate all my rack building woes...
hmmmmm
jman
March 7th, 2007, 12:09 PM
ST1, take a look at these racks I built, they hardly weight anything at all and are great for finales:D Hope this hurts... I mean helps:lol:
i was leaning twords 4 24 shots in a 6 way fan...then having 4 left over kinda as spares.
but now that noel and some others have suggested the 10 shot moduels i've been forced to reconsider everything.
then in comes johnny with the suggestion of the 2 liter soda crates, and that would eliminate all my rack building woes...
hmmmmm
Last year I just used Milkcrate racks! Great way to puke the sky for a finale Plus NO Building! I plan on being a bit more ambitious this year!:confused:
St1dinoh
March 7th, 2007, 01:12 PM
ST1, take a look at these racks I built, they hardly weight anything at all and are great for finales:D Hope this hurts... I mean helps:lol:
Last year I just used Milkcrate racks! Great way to puke the sky for a finale Plus NO Building! I plan on being a bit more ambitious this year!:confused:
thats kinda where i'm at...i'd like to go with the milk crates...but at the same time i'd rather have the ability to angle them or build them into a angle rack
pyroholic
March 7th, 2007, 01:51 PM
How about a separate, liteweight, angle ramp to bungie under the milk crate rack. One to the right and one to the left. "PH"
Tennespeedy
March 7th, 2007, 02:23 PM
How about a separate, liteweight, angle ramp to bungie under the milk crate rack. One to the right and one to the left. "PH"
Thanks PH, I just had a major brain spasm about angled milkcrate racks!! To be continued.>>>>>>>>>>>>:P
skypainter
March 7th, 2007, 06:14 PM
How about a separate, liteweight, angle ramp to bungie under the milk crate rack. One to the right and one to the left. "PH"
Fast way to make an angled milk crate rack and you don't need to carry a ramp.
jknepp1954
March 7th, 2007, 06:29 PM
Does anyone have a pic or link of a milk crate rack, especially the angled style. Guess i am lazy and don't want to build one as bad as I thought! :D .
Joyce
PS - i have seen them in other posts, but can't remember where.
citoripyro
March 8th, 2007, 02:33 PM
Does anyone have a pic or link of a milk crate rack, especially the angled style. Guess i am lazy and don't want to build one as bad as I thought! :D .
Joyce
PS - i have seen them in other posts, but can't remember where.
Check out the picture I just posted in 1.4 Setups!
Kwyjibo
March 21st, 2007, 08:25 AM
Dont be lazy, just get the hard work over with now and enjoy 24 shot racks that will last you a long time and wont be as dangerous as milk crate racks.