View Full Version : Need some help with a rocket rack.
Italteen3
May 22nd, 2006, 05:54 PM
All the 1.4g private shows I have helped fire or done myself have all been hand-fired. No pre-fusing on boards, rocket racks, or candle racks. I would like to set up a rocket rack this fourth as my friend has a whole case of "Shaquille O'Neals" we split. Most we will lite one at a time, but as part of the finale it would be nice to lite one fuse and have 50 go off at a decent pace.
I will be ordering a few rolls of quick visco from pyrocreations within the week for various projects and the rocket rack.
My plan was to build an A-frame from wood and have a 1x4 angled at 75* nailed to the top part of the A-frame. 50 shots is what I plan to shoot, but what size pipe and do you guys glue/epoxy the pipe to the wood?
Should two strands of quick visco with the rocket fuse tightly taped around the quick visco passfire sufficiently?
Thanks guys!
pyrochris
May 22nd, 2006, 05:55 PM
All the 1.4g private shows I have helped fire or done myself have all been hand-fired. No pre-fusing on boards, rocket racks, or candle racks. I would like to set up a rocket rack this fourth as my friend has a whole case of "comic book" rockets we split. Most we will lite one at a time, but as part of the finale it would be nice to lite one fuse and have 50 go off at a decent pace.
I will be ordering a few rolls of quick visco from pyrocreations within the week for various projects and the rocket rack.
My plan was to build an A-frame from wood and have a 1x4 angled at 75* nailed to the top part of the A-frame. 50 shots is what I plan to shoot, but what size pipe and do you guys glue/epoxy the pipe to the wood?
Should two strands of quick visco with the rocket fuse tightly taped around the quick visco passfire sufficiently?
Thanks guys!
Might want to edit the name of those rockets, i would advise putting "comic book" rockets instead, have CPSC rolling around here.On my rocket rack, I used .5" ID copper tubing, it worked wonders! I used hotglue on mine and it held very well, also had braces with screw holes as well.
SanFrancisco
May 22nd, 2006, 06:13 PM
Don't waste your time with cutting all that tubing. Use a 4x4 on top and just drill a bunch of holes through it.
pyrochris
May 22nd, 2006, 06:20 PM
Don't waste your time with cutting all that tubing. Use a 4x4 on top and just drill a bunch of holes through it.
Thats a disaster waiting to happen! I would not advise doing this since wood isnt smoothe after drilling through it, and rockets will easily snag on this sending them everywhere!
Italteen3
May 22nd, 2006, 06:22 PM
Don't waste your time with cutting all that tubing. Use a 4x4 on top and just drill a bunch of holes through it.
I would rather be safe then sorry and cut the tubing so that I can have the angle away from the audience. Some of the sticks come down hard and with a slight wind they can be carried far and not to mention with sparks/flames as well. So with the pipes it gives a safe angle for falling debris and a longer guide for the sticks as well.
So pyrochris for each individual pipe you had a brace? Seems very time and room consuming.
Could I get away with one strand of fuse or better off with two?
pyrochris
May 22nd, 2006, 06:27 PM
I would rather be safe then sorry and cut the tubing so that I can have the angle away from the audience. Some of the sticks come down hard and with a slight wind they can be carried far and not to mention with sparks/flames as well. So with the pipes it gives a safe angle for falling debris and a longer guide for the sticks as well.
So pyrochris for each individual pipe you had a brace? Seems very time and room consuming.
Could I get away with one strand of fuse or better off with two? Well, it really didnt take too long to secure each pipe, cutting took about 5 minutes with a buzz saw, and bracing all the tubes about 20-30 minutes. I would advise bracing each tube otherwise it will stress the integrity of the whole rack. I will post some pictures over the weekend of how my rocket rack looks.
I did something similar to this, and instead of PVC i used Copper tubing. Picture of PyroDustys rack! http://www.pyroreview.com/gallery/data/504/26Rocket_Rack1.jpg
SanFrancisco
May 22nd, 2006, 06:40 PM
Thats a disaster waiting to happen! I would not advise doing this since wood isnt smoothe after drilling through it, and rockets will easily snag on this sending them everywhere!
If you use a sharp metal drill bit and go slowly, the hole will be smooth and shiney. If you feel the edge is too sharp, you can countersink it with the tip of a larger one.
pyrochris
May 22nd, 2006, 06:44 PM
If you use a sharp metal drill bit and go slowly, the hole will be smooth and shiney. If you feel the edge is too sharp, you can countersink it with the tip of a larger one.
Yes, but there is also the factor of friction, wood getting launched off of wood going high speeds doesnt sound good. I would take the safe route and use something that will cause little friction and resistance as possible
Italteen3
May 22nd, 2006, 06:59 PM
Pyrodustys rack is almost identical to how I wanted to make my rack! Mine I just wanted to have another 20 or so pipes. In that picture I cant see how the pvc was mounted to the wood. Was it just glued do you know?
Thanks for the help.
pyrochris
May 22nd, 2006, 07:44 PM
Pyrodustys rack is almost identical to how I wanted to make my rack! Mine I just wanted to have another 20 or so pipes. In that picture I cant see how the pvc was mounted to the wood. Was it just glued do you know?
Thanks for the help.He used Liquid nails, which can be baught at Home Depot. Gorilla Glue works just as good and is better IMO because liquid nails you need the glue pump and it isn't resealable!
Italteen3
May 22nd, 2006, 08:37 PM
He used Liquid nails, which can be baught at Home Depot. Gorilla Glue works just as good and is better IMO because liquid nails you need the glue pump and it isn't resealable!
Can Gorilla Glue be bought at Home Depot as well?
Was also thinking about fusing it not all with fast visco. Start off with 6-8 inches of regular 30sec/ft visco then the rest of the approx 28-30 inches of pipes left all fast visco.
pyrochris
May 22nd, 2006, 09:06 PM
Can Gorilla Glue be bought at Home Depot as well?
Was also thinking about fusing it not all with fast visco. Start off with 6-8 inches of regular 30sec/ft visco then the rest of the approx 28-30 inches of pipes left all fast visco. Yes it can, It can also be baught at most hardware stores! Go to Gorillaglue.com and look for a retailer closest to you by typing in your zip code. nevermind Already did it for ya :D
http://www.gorillaglue.com/gluefinder.htm
Italteen3
May 23rd, 2006, 02:24 PM
Yes it can, It can also be baught at most hardware stores! Go to Gorillaglue.com and look for a retailer closest to you by typing in your zip code. nevermind Already did it for ya :D
http://www.gorillaglue.com/gluefinder.htm
Thankyou very much!
About the fusing method do I have the right idea going with the info in my above posts?
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