Georgie-Tiger
March 26th, 2009, 12:19 AM
Come one come all> . .
View Full Version : Rack Sturdiness / Blowout Competiton !
epyro
March 26th, 2009, 06:57 AM
GT, Good idea here. I hope you take lots of pictures. You doing this during the day or night? Send those pictures my way.
Georgie-Tiger
March 26th, 2009, 08:33 AM
awww
Switchfoot55
March 26th, 2009, 10:11 AM
Looks solid enough...but looks heavy too. Are they back-breakers, or not too bad?
stuntborg
March 26th, 2009, 10:35 AM
Something about this just doesn't sit well with me. Testing a design under very controlled circumstances is one thing. Turning it into a competition may not be the wisest move.
coachtimmyj
March 26th, 2009, 10:58 AM
will gladly engage in a Rack Sturdiness / Blowout Competiton !
Not sure what the contest is. :confused: Are you trying to see how many blowouts a rack will withstand? How how many tubes can blow at once and still hold up? I'll gladly send you a rack to test (using your tubes since I have to ship, but I'm sure both our HDPE tubes are up to par), but you better plan on wasting a lot of shells before mine will fail.
Something about this just doesn't sit well with me. Testing a design under very controlled circumstances is one thing. Turning it into a competition may not be the wisest move.
I agree with you Stunt. My above post was in jest. Although I'm fairly certain that the racks I build will stay together, all my testing has been done with a single purpose in mind, build the safest rack I possibly could.
GT, don't get me wrong, it was an experience to watch the burst flying between the spaces and out of the rack during my testing, but something like what you're proposing can easily turn into trouble imo. 'Course if you guys decide to do it, stay safe, and maybe we can all learn a little more about rack safety. If I hadn't done testing myself, I would still be building racks in the same manner as I originally did years ago and to say the least, they weren't very safe.
Also, with my statement above about how "if I hadn't done testing myself", I am by no means implying I think everyone should run out and start loading canisters upside down to see if their rack will hold up. If you're wondering about your racks, you can easily read all the great threads here on the forum. Guys have been doing these types of tests for a while now, you can probably draw your own conclusions about rack safety without actually testing them yourselves. Rack testing can be very dangerous if proper precautions aren't taken ahead of time. (distances, safety barriers, e-fire, etc).
Not sure what the contest is. :confused: Are you trying to see how many blowouts a rack will withstand? How how many tubes can blow at once and still hold up? I'll gladly send you a rack to test (using your tubes since I have to ship, but I'm sure both our HDPE tubes are up to par), but you better plan on wasting a lot of shells before mine will fail.
Something about this just doesn't sit well with me. Testing a design under very controlled circumstances is one thing. Turning it into a competition may not be the wisest move.
I agree with you Stunt. My above post was in jest. Although I'm fairly certain that the racks I build will stay together, all my testing has been done with a single purpose in mind, build the safest rack I possibly could.
GT, don't get me wrong, it was an experience to watch the burst flying between the spaces and out of the rack during my testing, but something like what you're proposing can easily turn into trouble imo. 'Course if you guys decide to do it, stay safe, and maybe we can all learn a little more about rack safety. If I hadn't done testing myself, I would still be building racks in the same manner as I originally did years ago and to say the least, they weren't very safe.
Also, with my statement above about how "if I hadn't done testing myself", I am by no means implying I think everyone should run out and start loading canisters upside down to see if their rack will hold up. If you're wondering about your racks, you can easily read all the great threads here on the forum. Guys have been doing these types of tests for a while now, you can probably draw your own conclusions about rack safety without actually testing them yourselves. Rack testing can be very dangerous if proper precautions aren't taken ahead of time. (distances, safety barriers, e-fire, etc).
Barracuda
March 26th, 2009, 11:07 AM
well i bet you are right about that stuntborg. . .
listening to the voice of reason is a good thing. thanks for the honest feedback. ;)
i will just test mine with some folks at MPAG "under very controlled circumstances " and post the results.
gt
Smart move GT. I got the idea of what you wanted to do, but I think you will accomplish the same thing with your 'revised' plan.
listening to the voice of reason is a good thing. thanks for the honest feedback. ;)
i will just test mine with some folks at MPAG "under very controlled circumstances " and post the results.
gt
Smart move GT. I got the idea of what you wanted to do, but I think you will accomplish the same thing with your 'revised' plan.
pogue1000
March 26th, 2009, 11:10 AM
hey you left out the story on how some guy at MPAG put a KOD upside down accidently! :lolbash:
epyro
March 26th, 2009, 12:01 PM
GT,
If you need some 2" DR11 mortars to test let me know and I'll send you some for free.
Eric
If you need some 2" DR11 mortars to test let me know and I'll send you some for free.
Eric
blurr95
March 26th, 2009, 12:46 PM
GT,
If you need some 2" DR11 mortars to test let me know and I'll send you some for free.
Eric
Hey Eric, I could use some free mortars to test for you. About 200 of them.:D Otherwise I will be contacting you ina couple of weeks to buy some.
Jason
If you need some 2" DR11 mortars to test let me know and I'll send you some for free.
Eric
Hey Eric, I could use some free mortars to test for you. About 200 of them.:D Otherwise I will be contacting you ina couple of weeks to buy some.
Jason
jrallen13
March 26th, 2009, 04:43 PM
hey you left out the story on how some guy at MPAG put a KOD upside down accidently! :lolbash:
Yeah and how some other pretty well seasoned pyro missed the mistake and lit it anyway.8o Hey at least I called it when I saw the lift go straight up. Plenty of warning....sort of......:brick::beer:
Yeah and how some other pretty well seasoned pyro missed the mistake and lit it anyway.8o Hey at least I called it when I saw the lift go straight up. Plenty of warning....sort of......:brick::beer:
PyroMania
March 26th, 2009, 05:54 PM
GT, are those 2x6's or 2x8's for the bottom and sides on the above racks?
strobes
March 27th, 2009, 05:54 PM
Lets use some of my shells:D
UnkleSAM
March 27th, 2009, 07:39 PM
Do what you want, but my money's on soonernort.
UnkleSAM
March 29th, 2009, 07:12 PM
really! must have some nice sturdy racks! :brick::brick:
They might hold up better than a MCR. http://www.pyrouniverse.com/forum/showpost.php?p=144081&postcount=1
They might hold up better than a MCR. http://www.pyrouniverse.com/forum/showpost.php?p=144081&postcount=1
soonernort
March 29th, 2009, 07:13 PM
really! must have some nice sturdy racks! :brick::brick:
Lol. It is pretty sturdy, below is the link to what he is referring to. The bottom holder is down on the plug so any explosion should be just the tube and not anything that supports it.
I'm building 5x new 32 shot racks similar to this one, I have most of the parts made I just need to take time and put them together.
http://www.pyrouniverse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12689&highlight=metal+rack
Lol. It is pretty sturdy, below is the link to what he is referring to. The bottom holder is down on the plug so any explosion should be just the tube and not anything that supports it.
I'm building 5x new 32 shot racks similar to this one, I have most of the parts made I just need to take time and put them together.
http://www.pyrouniverse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12689&highlight=metal+rack
hvac_superman
April 1st, 2009, 06:19 PM
They might hold up better than a MCR. http://www.pyrouniverse.com/forum/showpost.php?p=144081&postcount=1
Now thats a rack!!!:D
Now thats a rack!!!:D
CeeHock
April 14th, 2009, 06:08 AM
i use 2X6 as they provide a solid stableness to the rack. you need to really push on them with some force to tip them when not secured.
i have played around using both standard lumbar and treated pine. I prefer the treated pine as the boards seem more consistently truer. no warp. and give an extra measure of protection. the 2x2 spacers are treated pine also. come in a bundle of 12 at Home Depot.
the racks are heavy but not back breakers. 3" screws to hold the end boards to the bottom. 2 1/2" screws to hold the side rails and 2 1/4" screws for the spacers. i predrill now and get zero splits. all exterior screws course thread with a star bit. i get no stripping of screws. i started drilling holes at the top of all my tubes to be able to route leader fuses or to route and secure ematch. the aluminum foil tape across one side keeps Quick Match or fast fuse from burning the wood or starting them on fire. i have found all those spacers give a very substantial amount of localized rack integrity.
nice design....and great idea with the foil. do you find it easier to fuse with the holes in the mortars. seems like it would be a lot neater.
i have played around using both standard lumbar and treated pine. I prefer the treated pine as the boards seem more consistently truer. no warp. and give an extra measure of protection. the 2x2 spacers are treated pine also. come in a bundle of 12 at Home Depot.
the racks are heavy but not back breakers. 3" screws to hold the end boards to the bottom. 2 1/2" screws to hold the side rails and 2 1/4" screws for the spacers. i predrill now and get zero splits. all exterior screws course thread with a star bit. i get no stripping of screws. i started drilling holes at the top of all my tubes to be able to route leader fuses or to route and secure ematch. the aluminum foil tape across one side keeps Quick Match or fast fuse from burning the wood or starting them on fire. i have found all those spacers give a very substantial amount of localized rack integrity.
nice design....and great idea with the foil. do you find it easier to fuse with the holes in the mortars. seems like it would be a lot neater.
noel
April 14th, 2009, 11:32 AM
5 "Hard breaking" Shells inverted, 1, then 1, then 3 at a time.
http://www.pyrogear.com/images/upgraded_5shot.jpg
http://www.pyrogear.com/images/upgraded_5shot.jpg
epyro
April 14th, 2009, 01:35 PM
PM me your address GT. Please keep the guns, extra or not.
hvac_superman
April 14th, 2009, 05:30 PM
GT,
If you need some 2" DR11 mortars to test let me know and I'll send you some for free.
Eric
I could use about 200 to test Eric.:D
If you need some 2" DR11 mortars to test let me know and I'll send you some for free.
Eric
I could use about 200 to test Eric.:D
Pyro47240
May 6th, 2009, 05:51 PM
Guess I need to order some mortars, I want that book! :D
russell
May 6th, 2009, 05:55 PM
I ordered some! Do I get the book? :D
PyroMania
May 6th, 2009, 06:41 PM
Downloadable PDF? ;):cool:
epyro
May 6th, 2009, 08:04 PM
I ordered some! Do I get the book? :D
Russell,
It's just a basic book, so a smart guy like you will find it basic. However, I'll still send one with your GLASS order.
Russell,
It's just a basic book, so a smart guy like you will find it basic. However, I'll still send one with your GLASS order.
russell
May 6th, 2009, 08:31 PM
Thanks Eric! GT said I can't look at his. I guess the way the BBQ sauce was falling off my fingers I don't blame him lol
epyro
December 22nd, 2009, 05:29 AM
Keep the tubes!!!
Barracuda
December 22nd, 2009, 05:47 PM
I feel bad for the tubes.:(
Never in my life did I think tubes would not have a home.
Never in my life did I think tubes would not have a home.
Barracuda
December 22nd, 2009, 08:58 PM
dont worry cuda-man - they are receiving therapy from Doctor Psquared and dealing with their abandonment issues nicely. a couple of times i have gone out to the ignitor factory i caught them trying to hit on the Patron girl but she is holding out for Cuda she said. so they are recovering nicely.
Somethin' about the Patron chick and can...ughhh...shells in the Igniter Factory that gets me thinkin'.:D
Somethin' about the Patron chick and can...ughhh...shells in the Igniter Factory that gets me thinkin'.:D
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