allo, again. I know there have been threads on it but i thought it would be good to have an offical fusing thread? Maybe there is and i didnt search if so merge it soory for the trouble. Anyways for me this is more of a question, i took the libety of making a small picture. I saw alot of the real pictures of poeple fuse things together but is this right?
http://www.pyroreview.com/gallery/data/500/1561fusing.jpg
With the leader fuse i would tape maybe 1 - 2 inches from the mortor and duct tape or electrical tape it to the leader fuse and voila? anywho thanks for looking. to referance to the picture it would be the lighter green to the darker green.
Snakeboy
April 3rd, 2006, 02:54 PM
Looks like it should work. We've had good luck with good quality duct tape. If your fusing has to be covered out in the heat for a few days, the cheap stuff seperates and the fusing comes apart. If your firing the same day you fuse, the cheap stuff should work.
FWX006
April 3rd, 2006, 04:23 PM
We don't fuse in the same way as you guys do, but what you are doing is essentially the same as in blasting.
This is a C ring plier, which applies small crimped rings to almost anything. These are commonly used to seal bags of produce. When making the join put a parallel twist in rather than just laying the two pieces side by side. Clip a ring on at either end of the joint and you're set.
This is a very quick method that doesn't rely on weather sensitive tape.
johnny_boomboom
April 3rd, 2006, 04:50 PM
Give up the tape guys, use 4" plastic tie wraps. Overlap about 1" use 2 ties... haven't had one failure yet!!!!!!!!!!!
wooguay
April 3rd, 2006, 07:19 PM
alright sounds good. I had one more question, how many shells have you been able to bundle together and attach to the leader fuse? Ive seen in some pictures people would tie two fuses together then bring that composition to the leadeer fuse does it work just as well? Also say i use this same method on the fuses of the shells do they provide a hot enough spark to ignite other shells attached to it? or is the flame to fast and just leaves the attached fuse unlit?
johnny_boomboom
April 3rd, 2006, 07:40 PM
Dan- I have successfully chained a 50 shot rack off one quick visco leader. I have also chained a 2 shot rack just using the leaders off the shells themselves. I have also tied 4 shell leaders to a center leader to fire at te same time... no problems... hope that helps.
wooguay
April 3rd, 2006, 10:06 PM
it does thanks really opens up alot of possiblities :) thanks
shrapnel
April 3rd, 2006, 10:16 PM
I would like to add, don't zip tie too close to the tip of the shell fuse, about 1/4" to a 1/2" is good, I had a 30 shot rack fail to pass fire thursday at shell # 21 and noticed the tie was very tight and right at the tip of the fuse, in a show i will always chain fuse the shell leaders, then add a piece of quick visco as a fail safe, if one of the shell leaders fails to pass fire, the visco will pass it right up and keep igniting the shells.
I also tried DonF's Idea from the old forum, drilled holes in the mortars and weaved the fuse leaders in and out, only did 10 shells but every one fired, Much faster than the zip tie method but cant use the quick vis "failsafe method"
JoeRatman
April 3rd, 2006, 11:00 PM
Zip ties work well in some situations, but they provide no protect for the fuse. If you are fusing multiple fountains or some items that give a lot of spray, you want to protect the fuse as much as possible from premature ignition. In this case, using tape (duct or electrical) protects the connection from sparks and spray. I will then cover any exposed fuse with a strip of duct or electrical tape by folding it lengthwise along the fuse.
johnny_boomboom
April 4th, 2006, 04:50 AM
I now use tin foil as protection... I had a SM rack of 50 go early... some call it a "premature Launch" :D ... I had a mine spray the rack and up it went. really fast since the sm was burning in multiple directions. If you use tape or tie wraps... (and yes don't sinch the tie warps too hard...) please wrap you tube(s)....:D:eek: in foil!!!! :twisted:
SomeGuy
April 22nd, 2006, 08:40 AM
How are you guys fusing these rockets together? I made a rack last year & just zip tied the fuse to each rocket. Was a PITA, but it worked for the most part. I didn't have a large rack. I only do about 5-10 rockets at a time.
What's the easiest way to fuse the rockets together?
pyrocasto
April 22nd, 2006, 12:06 PM
Someguy, I wouldnt fuse rockets for nothing! :lol:
2 ways, eithe use powder spread on a pegboard and light the powder which will light all the rockets. Or like some people here you can use a few rockets to light the other rockets. Like a % of them with powder or fuse, and their take off can light some more, which will light some more.
Just 2 easy ways of doing it. ;)
MNPyro
April 22nd, 2006, 03:59 PM
Someguy, I wouldnt fuse rockets for nothing! :lol:
2 ways, eithe use powder spread on a pegboard and light the powder which will light all the rockets. Or like some people here you can use a few rockets to light the other rockets. Like a % of them with powder or fuse, and their take off can light some more, which will light some more.
Just 2 easy ways of doing it. ;)
As easy as that sounds, the ways you describe will only work "well" with bottle rockets, not skyrockets.
Yes, fusing them main be a PITA, but with a visco leader, I think you would have to you quite a bit of BP to light them...and that was only if you prime was very good. And therefor fusing them is really the only way to have 100% or so ignition.
MNPyro
pyrocasto
April 22nd, 2006, 08:11 PM
The second way may not work well with sky rockets, but the powder method will. I've lit many a fuse now with sticky match and lose powder. It burns quite hot enough that only a diaganol cut on the fuse really should be done.
It depends on how many you want to light to tell what method you should use. ;)
DennyMo
April 22nd, 2006, 09:29 PM
We don't fuse in the same way as you guys do, but what you are doing is essentially the same as in blasting.
This is a C ring plier, which applies small crimped rings to almost anything. These are commonly used to seal bags of produce. When making the join put a parallel twist in rather than just laying the two pieces side by side. Clip a ring on at either end of the joint and you're set.
This is a very quick method that doesn't rely on weather sensitive tape.
I like this! Well, except for the price of the tool, I'd have to figure out some other, umm, need for it... ;) How tightly do the c-rings clamp on the fuse? Is it adjustable? Could I join more than two fuses with this method? Thanks.